SUMMARY: WFW + PC-NFS + Suns?

From: Brett Lymn (blymn@mulga.awadi.com.AU)
Date: Tue Sep 14 1993 - 07:48:46 CDT


A few weeks ago I sent out this plea:

>I am getting desperate, I have tried the newsgroups, my supplier and
>still have not a straight answer.

>I have a network of PC's running Windows For Workgroups that I need to
>hook up to our Sun network. The problem being is that they are using
>the netbeui protocol not TCP/IP. I need to change the network over to
>use TCP/IP but the process for doing this is shrouded in mystery, I
>cannot get a straight answer anywhere as to what I need to do to make
>WFW use TCP/IP? Also, has anyone used PC-NFS in conjunction with WFW?

Well only one person said that the current version WFW will not do
TCP/IP, though I have heard a recent announcement that may actually
provide the capability - this is why I have been putting off the
summary, waiting for news from our supplier but I have given up.

The good news is that Netbeui and TCP/IP will coexist happily on the
same wire and PC-NFS will work with WFW. So it looks like I will be
able to connect up the networks and install PC-NFS on some machines to
allow them to share sun disks. I am getting a copy of WFW to play
with to make sure it all works.

Thanks for all the help and offers to:

From: bert@penril.com (Bert Robbins)
From: David Fetrow <fetrow@biostat.washington.edu>
From: Alain.Perron@Matrox.COM (Alain Perron)
From: "Jon Mellott" <jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu>
From: rich_b@oldham.gpsemi.com (Richard Bogusz)
From: timw@eden.pls.com (Timothy J Ware)
From: M.Ramchand@car0101.wins.icl.co.uk
From: Kerry Duke <kerry.duke@analog.com>

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From: bert@penril.com (Bert Robbins)

We have LAT, TCP/IP, IPX and WFW running on the same wire,
although the IPX and WFW don't talk to the TCP/IP they do not
interfere with each other.

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From: David Fetrow <fetrow@biostat.washington.edu>

 This has been discussed in comp.sys.pc.tcp-ip. If you need the details
I can dig them up.

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From: Alain.Perron@Matrox.COM (Alain Perron)

We're currently running pc-nfs 5.0 and W4W without any problem (as long as we
don't use Etherlink III cards)...You have to use NDIS drivers for pc-nfs and
W4W.

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From: "Jon Mellott" <jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu>

First, the current version of WFW does will not use TCP/IP. Period.

PC-NFS v5.0 will coexist with WFW though.

The next version of WFW (if it is released) is supposed to support
TCP/IP. This would be nice since TCP/IP is routable while NETBEUI
isn't routable.

BTW, Windows NT supports TCP/IP now. There is no NFS client available for
NT yet, however, one is supposed to be ready sometime before the end
of the year from Sun.

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From: rich_b@oldham.gpsemi.com (Richard Bogusz)

We had this package on evaluation and found that teh support for Netbeui
under PC-NFS was not all that the manual had it cracked up to be. The
mapping of Netbeui names to IP addresses didn't work and as a result
we had to send the package back to Sun. PC-NFS was OK but the Netbeui
aspect of teh package has not been tested out enough, it's just a shame
that you are using WfWG otherwise you would be happy.

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From: timw@eden.pls.com (Timothy J Ware)

Sun's PC-NFS v5.0 will work in conjunction with WFW. Under WFW, PC-NFS is
considered a second network. There are directions with PC-NFS on
installing it over WFW. I have 10 WFW users running PC-NFS and accesssing
my Sun network with very few problems. The only major problem I am having
is getting PC-NFS to use NIS correctly. I've contacted Sun Support and have
not gotten much of a response, but I am still hopeful.

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From: M.Ramchand@car0101.wins.icl.co.uk

The following appears in appendix D of the Sun PCNFS 5.0
Installation guide:
PS You should be using NDIS drivers. You will be running BOTH
protocols, but PC-NFS will interact properly with wfw.

[*snip*... delete the inclusion to save space]

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From: Kerry Duke <kerry.duke@analog.com>

I have! and it works great. I have some instructions on how to use PC-NFS (TCP/IP) and WFW (netbeui) at the same time, is that helpful?

If it is, just let me know and I'll send it to you.

-- 
Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, AWA Defence Industries
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"Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vaccuum tubes
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