SUMMARY: Those Nasty Little Tabs (subtitled: Removing Stuck Tabs from the Back of an Ultra 2)

From: eric (eric@catastrophe.net)
Date: Fri Dec 10 1999 - 09:36:39 CST


Thanks to all who responded on how to remove the stuck tabs on the back
of an Ultra2.

Original Question:
"
Let's just say that I have a stripped screw holding one of those tabs on
an Ultra 2 ; what would be some "constructive" ways of getting them off?
"

The short and quick version is to bring the machine down and either
drill the screw or rip the tab off; unfortunately the machine is in
production and I cannot bring it down. So we'll just wait on it.

The long versions (which I suggest you peruse) are below.

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** From: Val <vpopa@apps.mc.xerox.com>
try a drill with a small drillbit or a pair of needlenose pl.

** From: Stephen P Richardson <spr@photo.myxa.com>
I have been successful by cutting the little strip, then rotating the
whole thing around. I wish I knew how they get them on so tight!

** From: Robert Hayne <robert@pegasus.cuug.ab.ca>
You could try drilling the screw out. The machine should be powered off when
doing this. I try not to use the tabs unless I need the system tied down.

** From: Chris W Knox <Chris.W.Knox@aexp.com>
Go to your local hardware store and ask for an EZ-Out. They come in a variety
of sizes from tiny (which is what you need) up to huge. It's a hardened
tapered shank with left-hand spirals. You drill into the stuck screw and then
screw the EZ-Out into it. The EZ-Out's "IN" direction is the screw's "OUT"
direction. As it goes deeper, the taper locks into the walls of the hole and
it comes out.

** From: Steve_Turgeon@putnaminv.com
Drill the head of the screw out, vise grips.....

** From: Michael Baumann <baumann@proton.llumc.edu>
I'm not familiar with exactly what you are talking about but I assume its
some kind of capture screw. Often if you can get something that can
exert an outward pressure (away from the case) while slowly turning, it will
bite and work out. The 3-fingered "screw-retriever" mechanics (and I :) )
use is a decent tool for doing this. Small bent paperclips come to mind, if you
can get in there.
From: Chris Tubutis <chris@tci.com>
An electric drill

** From: Edwards Philip M Ctr AFRL/SNRR <Philip.Edwards@wpafb.af.mil>
An electric drill with a small diameter will "solve" just about any kind of
stripped screw, whatever it's holding on.

** From: Brett Lymn <blymn@baea.com.au>
You may be lucky and be able to get the screw out with some needle
nose pliers and strong hands. Try sticking one point of the pliers
inside the hole you have burred out and the other point on the rim of
the screw. Squeeze HARD and try to turn the screw. Or, if you can manage
it, you may be able to get the plier on either side of the rim of the
screw, squeeze HARD and turn the screw.
For future reference, I suggest you get a reasonable set of
screwdrivers and use the correct size for the screw - it is so much
easier ;-)

** From: Michael Cunningham <malice@exit109.com>
A drill is basically your best bet. Just pick a bit slightly larger then
the screw shaft size and drill right down the middle of the screw head
till the head falls off. Of course this means you wont be able to put
the lock back on later:(
From: Haniotakis Vangelis <haniotak@ucnet.uch.gr>
Hmm. We had the same problem with a couple of our Ultra-30's. A flat
screwdriver with a moderately sharp-edged head worked for me, as it
created its own slot, and I was able to remove the screw. It took me
quite of bit of time to do, but was relatively non-destructive.
Damn tabs.

** From: John DiMarco <jdd@cs.toronto.edu>
The metal is pretty soft -- use wirecutter-type pliers.

** From: Seth Rothenberg <SROTHENB@montefiore.org>
Subject: Re: Those Nasty Little Tabs
I don't know the particular problem you are having,
but I can hark back to a similar problem on a
PET-8192 !!!!
A Phillis head screw was "stripped", so I got an "easy-out" kit.
The procedure is supposed to be:
Drill a hole in the screw, put the easy-out in the hole,
and tighten Easy-out. Since Easy-out is threaded
counter-clockwise, the screw comes out.
HOWEVER !!!
I did not even reach that stage. I drilled a few minutes,
which was hard because the screw was tempered steel.
Then, I tried the screw again, and it worked!
the drilling allowed the screwdriver to reach new
faces of the screw!
Either approach may help you. Bring the screw that you got out with you
to the hardware store, so you get the correct size of easy-out.
Figure out how you will clean up also, as screw shavings conduct electricity.
Maybe canned air.

** From: Craig Russell <crussell_1969@yahoo.com>
drill? carefully? Its worked for me in the past. I
would go with the cordless variety. Either that or
very small needle nose pliers



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